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Remittance man question
Posted: September 1, 2013 8:43 pm
by bananaman
Who or what is a "remittance man"? I know what the definition of "remittance" is but I'm embarrassed to say that I don't understand how that applies to the song. Can anyone help? Any thoughts or theories?
Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 1, 2013 9:12 pm
by sonofabeach
I believe it's from Following the Equator by Mark Twain.
Basically an outcast whose family pays them to stay away.....or something along those lines.
Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 1, 2013 9:17 pm
by bananaman
sonofabeach wrote:I believe it's from Following the Equator by Mark Twain.
Basically an outcast whose family pays them to stay away.....or something along those lines.
Hmmmm....interesting theory.
Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 1, 2013 9:21 pm
by Snowparrot
It's quite an old concept. The British colonies had lots of them!
Wikipedia says: In 19th century British usage, a remittance man is an emigrant, often to a British colony, supported or assisted by payment of money from their paternal home. As a general term remittance man or remittance woman could mean anyone living away from home supported mainly by their family in a different house, neighborhood, city, or country regardless of their reason for being there. Such a person may be seeking business fortune, education, extended vacation, a new place for the family to move, employment, or safety from personal, family, or legal troubles.
Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 1, 2013 9:22 pm
by Snowparrot
It's quite an old concept. The British colonies had lots of them!
Wikipedia says: In 19th century British usage, a remittance man is an emigrant, often to a British colony, supported or assisted by payment of money from their paternal home. As a general term remittance man or remittance woman could mean anyone living away from home supported mainly by their family in a different house, neighborhood, city, or country regardless of their reason for being there. Such a person may be seeking business fortune, education, extended vacation, a new place for the family to move, employment, or safety from personal, family, or legal troubles.
Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 1, 2013 9:22 pm
by Snowparrot
It's quite an old concept. The British colonies had lots of them!
Wikipedia says: In 19th century British usage, a remittance man is an emigrant, often to a British colony, supported or assisted by payment of money from their paternal home. As a general term remittance man or remittance woman could mean anyone living away from home supported mainly by their family in a different house, neighborhood, city, or country regardless of their reason for being there. Such a person may be seeking business fortune, education, extended vacation, a new place for the family to move, employment, or safety from personal, family, or legal troubles.
Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 1, 2013 9:24 pm
by surfpirate
Google "Remittance Man". A lot of background info out there.
sonofabeach is spot on as to the definition
and its being a crucial element of Twain's Following the Equator,
a book I'm ashamed to say I've never been able to complete.
Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 1, 2013 9:24 pm
by sonofabeach
From the liner notes of Barometer Soup:
One of my favorite stories in Mark Twain's classic book "Following The Equator", the remittance man was an
unforgettable fictitious character who had to circle the globe, going from port to port to collect his remittance.
It seemed a sad but intriguing voyage. I guess growing up in a water front town and watching the big ships sail up and down Mobile Bay
was enough to put my imagination to work. So far so good.
Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 1, 2013 9:31 pm
by bananaman
Wow guys! Great info. I don't know why I didn't just Google it. Actually, I'm glad I came here first. I knew I could count on y'all for the best info anyways... Thanks!

Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 1, 2013 10:59 pm
by ragtopW
bananaman wrote:Wow guys! Great info. I don't know why I didn't just Google it. Actually, I'm glad I came here first. I knew I could count on y'all for the best info anyways... Thanks!

also what Snow parrot did not cover. they were usually asked to leave for a reason
gambling, girls, women, drinking. or a combo of the list, anything that might embarrass the Family
they were most often ( in my research for an upcoming book) the youngest male in the Family
also sonofabeach is correct in the context of the song
Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 2, 2013 8:22 am
by bananaman
ragtopW wrote:bananaman wrote:Wow guys! Great info. I don't know why I didn't just Google it. Actually, I'm glad I came here first. I knew I could count on y'all for the best info anyways... Thanks!

also what Snow parrot did not cover. they were usually asked to leave for a reason
gambling, girls, women, drinking. or a combo of the list, anything that might embarrass the Family
they were most often ( in my research for an upcoming book) the youngest male in the Family
also sonofabeach is correct in the context of the song
Imagine if they still did that today....

I know a few families that wish they could send off their "problem child".

Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 2, 2013 10:15 am
by phjrsaunt
surfpirate wrote:Google "Remittance Man". A lot of background info out there.
sonofabeach is spot on as to the definition
and its being a crucial element of Twain's Following the Equator,
a book I'm ashamed to say I've never been able to complete.
I had to skip large chunks of it, but still feel that I got the gist of it. I got one of my phavorite quotes of all time phrom that book: "dolphins are like the kittens of the sea."

Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 2, 2013 4:36 pm
by RinglingRingling
bananaman wrote:ragtopW wrote:bananaman wrote:Wow guys! Great info. I don't know why I didn't just Google it. Actually, I'm glad I came here first. I knew I could count on y'all for the best info anyways... Thanks!

also what Snow parrot did not cover. they were usually asked to leave for a reason
gambling, girls, women, drinking. or a combo of the list, anything that might embarrass the Family
they were most often ( in my research for an upcoming book) the youngest male in the Family
also sonofabeach is correct in the context of the song
Imagine if they still did that today....

I know a few families that wish they could send off their "problem child".

I wouldn't say it isn't possible it doesn't go on today. Think trustfund babies. at one time between the first and second world war, Paris was filled with expat folks living on remittances from families back home. It let them engage in the "Lost Generation" life in the City of Light, stay out of trouble at home, and it kept the American Express office busy.
Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 4, 2013 1:19 pm
by big john
phjrsaunt wrote:surfpirate wrote:Google "Remittance Man". A lot of background info out there.
sonofabeach is spot on as to the definition
and its being a crucial element of Twain's Following the Equator,
a book I'm ashamed to say I've never been able to complete.
I had to skip large chunks of it, but still feel that I got the gist of it. I got one of my phavorite quotes of all time phrom that book:
"dolphins are like the kittens of the sea." 
Both are served in Chinese restaurants.

Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 4, 2013 3:13 pm
by Tiki Bar
bananaman wrote:Wow guys! Great info. I don't know why I didn't just Google it. Actually, I'm glad I came here first. I knew I could count on y'all for the best info anyways... Thanks!

It's always best to ask here! Therefore the interesting information is shared with the class, whom enjoy reading it, but many of which wouldn't have necessarily pondered the question that bothered you so!
In other words... thanks for asking!

Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 4, 2013 3:17 pm
by surfpirate
Tiki Bar wrote:bananaman wrote:Wow guys! Great info. I don't know why I didn't just Google it. Actually, I'm glad I came here first. I knew I could count on y'all for the best info anyways... Thanks!

It's always best to ask here! Therefore the interesting information is shared with the class, whom enjoy reading it, but many of which wouldn't have necessarily pondered the question that bothered you so!
In other words... thanks for asking!

There are no stupid questions. But there are a LOT of.... wait! never mind ... not in THIS case. Ignore my signature.

Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 6, 2013 9:54 am
by jbfins
Following the Equator is just too big and too boring for me. I am also going to admit that I do not understand the quote in the beginning. "Be good and you will be lonesome." What the heck does that mean?
Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 6, 2013 10:14 am
by big john
jbfins wrote:Following the Equator is just too big and too boring for me. I am also going to admit that I do not understand the quote in the beginning. "Be good and you will be lonesome." What the heck does that mean?
I think it means if you follow all the rules you won't have any fun or
meet any really interesting people. Some of my fondest memories
are from when I was doing stuff I really shouldn't have.

Re: Remittance man question
Posted: September 6, 2013 10:31 pm
by sonofabeach
jbfins wrote:Following the Equator is just too big and too boring for me.
Same here. I made it about 200 pages in and it just got way too slow for me.
I like Jimmy's version better.
Re: Remittance man question
Posted: November 17, 2013 11:57 pm
by Dino69
Grab a copy of Tales from Margaritaville, Jimmy's written a short story about one.